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Post  Sanaki Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:32 am

Eh, it's just too cramped, seems like the big issue to me.

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Post  NegiBozu203 Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:39 am

FYI, I'll need alot of space to work with for a big fight like that.

Pandemonium is way to cramped, and my time will be consumed doing complex moves like wall jumps and things breaking.

It'd be great if we chose a stage with a ton of big space to work with.
Things like Dream's End, The Rift, and Orphan's Cradle could work.
Things like Pandemonium, Ultimecia's Castle, and Planet's Core won't
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Post  DEKMStephens Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:40 am

Okay, probably should find one which isn't a home stage though
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Post  Mrdude22 Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:02 am

Isn't Orphan's Cradle Free?
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Post  Jeryl the Shadow Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:25 pm

Orphan's Cradle is me.
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Post  Mrdude22 Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:28 pm

ok then
Let me look up what is free.
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Post  Mrdude22 Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:30 pm

...big stages are ...low

We have
Pandemonium
Phantom Train
Kefka's Tower
Ultimecia's Castle
and the two Dissidia Stages

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Post  Syaoran Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:31 pm

Didn't SE say Phantom Train is narrow? Seems like that'd be as bad as Pandemonium.
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Post  DarkRPGMaster Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:34 pm

Perfect place for a duel to the death. XD
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Post  Mrdude22 Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:35 pm

Unless someone changes there home stage we might have issues.
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Post  NegiBozu203 Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:39 pm

We always have Order's Sancuary to fall back on.
And for the record, if I can work it correctly, we can use the ENTIRE area from Hell's Throne.
Meaning, we can go past that initial tower with the throne on it and fight in the area with the swords and lava.
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Post  Mrdude22 Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:40 pm

I just thought of this crazy thing (I'm pretty sure it can't be done) but is there a way you can smoothly go from one stage into another?

Example: Have someone fighting on the Prima Vista, they fall off and land in the Rift.
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Post  Acaract Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:30 pm

Omg that would be totally wicked!!!

I had a not so feasible sequence too though... It involves smashing into the crystal tower and ending up at the top part of Ultimecia's castle where there's a break in the wall
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Post  NegiBozu203 Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:15 pm

I could definitly try something like that, but Prima to the Rift wouldn't look too good.
If you look over the edge of Prima Vista you can CLEARLY see Alexandria below.
The transition would be fairly awkword.
If they fell off Sky Fortress Bahamut into the Rift, that would make more sense since it's nothing but blue sky.
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Post  Mrdude22 Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:17 pm

Was just an example.

Anyways how is the 1st trailer coming along?
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Post  DEKMStephens Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:28 pm

I could definitly try something like that, but Prima to the Rift wouldn't look too good.
If you look over the edge of Prima Vista you can CLEARLY see Alexandria below.
The transition would be fairly awkword.
If they fell off Sky Fortress Bahamut into the Rift, that would make more sense since it's nothing but blue sky.


Not to seem nagging, but suppose you could make Pandemonium the inside of the Rifts Castle?

It'd be pretty awesome if we could figure out how to tie them together
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Post  NegiBozu203 Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:30 pm

I could do that, but the sizes are to different for me to put it actually inside.
I can make a transition so it LOOKS like they walk out of Pandemonium and out of the castle on The Rift stage, but I can't put Pandemonium actually inside The Rift and have everything look in proportion.

And I've taken a break from the trailer to texture a few more characters. Just finished all the Terras, so Rune is all set.
I gotta tell ya, I fell in love with Terra's new blue costume, it's very nice and cool looking.
I need to finish the Prima Vista scene, then move on to texturing Garland so I can do Fallen's big fight.
I also need to prepare the models for cloth dynamics now. It takes a tad longer, but I feel the trailers would look MUCH better if their loose clothing moved.
As an example, Sanaki's scene doesn't have dynamics, so at one point his cape flutters out and it looks straight and awkward, but in the Prima Vista scene, you can see Shinigami's headband wave a bit when he moves.
For Fallen's scene I need to do the sash as Squall's side, Garland's cape, and Yuna's sleeves.
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Post  DEKMStephens Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:32 pm

I could do that, but the sizes are to different for me to put it actually inside.

Older games come to mind with disproportions =P

Though I understand the rest of what you said, of course, it's the Rift, so who knows what physics Pandemonium+Interdimensional Rift equal? =P

All the same, do what you can
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Post  Acaract Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:50 pm

Would ulti's castle idea work?
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Post  NegiBozu203 Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:06 am

Possibly.
When I texture them, I'll have to do some size testings.
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Post  Mrdude22 Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:37 pm

Woo...there are some mistakes and things to change here so I will do that
I will bold what has been changed

0:00-0:26- Most likely Sanaki talking about the war and all that jazz
0:27-0:42- People talking over...something plot related (most likely some characters already seen in the 1st trailer)
0:43-0:59- Same as above except different people
1:00-1:11- Rune is seen doing something with Aqua
1:12-1:35- Something...Involving DEKM
1:36-1:47- Members of Team PAUWNCH are doing something (as they haven't really done anything yet?)
1:48-2:00- Something involving Brawl and Syaoran
2:00-2:17- Something involving Zero (don't know what cause I don't want to write peoples stories)
2:18-2:22- Aqua confronting Kitmeng
2:23-2:29- Yukanna seen with Xan's or Shiny's villain doing something Evil
2:30-2:39- More Villains doing some stuff
2:40-2:50- Stunna and Phostopho are fighting when Jeryl runs in on them
2:51-3:08- Some heroes confronting Villains and all that jazz
3:09-3:13- Negi overhears Syrup saying his evil plans to Snow
3:14-3:19- A shot of either DEKM or Sanaki meeting up with the first person they have to bring back (however they do it...DEKM is handling) this one)
3:20-3:24- A smaller version of the scene with Fallen and Epicgirl VS Thamaturge
3:25-3:30- The remaining heroes near the end of Shade Impulse walk forward. A few Shadow Lurkers appear (including Stunna) Dude walks forward
3:31-3:38- Fallen is shown, turns around and sees Epic Girl on the ground.
3:39-3:44- Dragmire starts to attack the Hero of Time
3:45-3:50- Insert a scene here
3:51-3:56- Insert a scene here
3:57-4:02- Rune being confronted by Elice
4:03-4:14- (If possible) Aqua goes infront of Kitmeng and the helmet falls off...
4:15-End- Fight Scene!
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Post  The Silver Dragoon Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:01 pm

Well, I think the pre-battle cutscene of Hero's 2nd battle would make for a good part in the trailer. To recap, in Pandemonium, Yukanna does a surprise attack on Epic Girl and Zero, then Fallen runs to help them while Zell is waiting to ambush him, but Hero stops Zell from attacking Fallen. Parts of that would be neat to see.
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Post  Mrdude22 Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:13 pm

Well I can't fit all of that but..

0:00-0:26- Most likely Sanaki talking about the war and all that jazz
0:27-0:42- People talking over...something plot related (most likely some characters already seen in the 1st trailer)
0:43-0:59- Same as above except different people
1:00-1:11- Rune is seen doing something with Aqua
1:12-1:35- Something...Involving DEKM
1:36-1:47- Members of Team PAUWNCH are doing something (as they haven't really done anything yet?)
1:48-2:00- Something involving Brawl and Syaoran
2:00-2:17- Something involving Zero (don't know what cause I don't want to write peoples stories)
2:18-2:22- Aqua confronting Kitmeng
2:23-2:29- Yukanna seen with Xan's or Shiny's villain doing something Evil
2:30-2:39- More Villains doing some stuff
2:40-2:50- Stunna and Phostopho are fighting when Jeryl runs in on them
2:51-3:08- Some heroes confronting Villains and all that jazz
3:09-3:13- Negi overhears Syrup saying his evil plans to Snow
3:14-3:19- A shot of either DEKM or Sanaki meeting up with the first person they have to bring back (however they do it...DEKM is handling) this one)
3:20-3:24- A smaller version of the scene with Fallen and Epicgirl VS Thamaturge
3:25-3:30- The remaining heroes near the end of Shade Impulse walk forward. A few Shadow Lurkers appear (including Stunna) Dude walks forward
3:31-3:38- Fallen is shown, turns around and sees Epic Girl on the ground.
3:39-3:44- Dragmire starts to attack the Hero of Time
3:45-3:50- Insert a scene here
3:51-3:56- Yukanna does a surprise attack on Epic Girl and Zero, then Fallen runs to help them
3:57-4:02- Rune being confronted by Elice
4:03-4:14- (If possible) Aqua goes infront of Kitmeng and the helmet falls off...
4:15-End- Fight Scene!
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Post  DarkRPGMaster Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:29 am

Might as well put this here for the spoiler which everybody will read anyway, so I will not spoiler it.

3:45-3:50

Dark yelling at Zero to kill him.
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Post  Mrdude22 Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:25 am

Got it

0:00-0:26- Most likely Sanaki talking about the war and all that jazz
0:27-0:42- People talking over...something plot related (most likely some characters already seen in the 1st trailer)
0:43-0:59- Same as above except different people
1:00-1:11- Rune is seen doing something with Aqua
1:12-1:35- Something...Involving DEKM
1:36-1:47- Members of Team PAUWNCH are doing something (as they haven't really done anything yet?)
1:48-2:00- Something involving Brawl and Syaoran
2:00-2:17- Something involving Zero (don't know what cause I don't want to write peoples stories)
2:18-2:22- Aqua confronting Kitmeng
2:23-2:29- Yukanna seen with Xan's or Shiny's villain doing something Evil
2:30-2:39- More Villains doing some stuff
2:40-2:50- Stunna and Phostopho are fighting when Jeryl runs in on them
2:51-3:08- Some heroes confronting Villains and all that jazz
3:09-3:13- Negi overhears Syrup saying his evil plans to Snow
3:14-3:19- A shot of either DEKM or Sanaki meeting up with the first person they have to bring back (however they do it...DEKM is handling) this one)
3:20-3:24- A smaller version of the scene with Fallen and Epicgirl VS Thamaturge
3:25-3:30- The remaining heroes near the end of Shade Impulse walk forward. A few Shadow Lurkers appear (including Stunna) Dude walks forward
3:31-3:38- Fallen is shown, turns around and sees Epic Girl on the ground.
3:39-3:44- Dragmire starts to attack the Hero of Time
3:45-3:50- Dark yelling at Zero to kill him
3:51-3:56- Yukanna does a surprise attack on Epic Girl and Zero, then Fallen runs to help them
3:57-4:02- Rune being confronted by Elice
4:03-4:14- (If possible) Aqua goes infront of Kitmeng and the helmet falls off...
4:15-End- Fight Scene!


Now we need to figure out those vague scenes
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