Chip Battle Discussion
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Chip Battle Discussion
I think this whole battle deserves a discussion as many people die here and stuff gets real
Characters in the battle:
Aqua
Jeryl
Fallen
Zero
Negi
Xan
ShinigamigodX
Brawl
Syaoran
Hero
DEKM?
Kitmeng?
Snow,Epicgirl, and Dude aren't here as they are dead and I think Syrup is down at this point but not sure.
Characters in the battle:
Aqua
Jeryl
Fallen
Zero
Negi
Xan
ShinigamigodX
Brawl
Syaoran
Hero
DEKM?
Kitmeng?
Snow,Epicgirl, and Dude aren't here as they are dead and I think Syrup is down at this point but not sure.
Last edited by Mrdude22 on Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:01 pm; edited 1 time in total
Re: Chip Battle Discussion
The point of me is that I survive because I didn't, partake
DEKMStephens- Super Mace Wielding Lightning Warrior!
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Re: Chip Battle Discussion
I'm not there during the final battle with Chip Noir. I'm killed a bit before it.
DarkRPGMaster- The Randomness Generator
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Re: Chip Battle Discussion
Providing that Desperado Chaos is boss-only but is allowed to be used as an enemy in Quests, I hope they don't go the route of making it like the normal Chaos and making it multiple fights. That'd be WAY too tedious for the fight against him if all of them were multiple battles. If that does turn out to be the case, we might have to use another character for most of the fights, and just make the last one a fight against DChaos.
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Re: Chip Battle Discussion
I kick Syrup's ass at the end of my story but I can't remember if he dies because of it or not.
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Re: Chip Battle Discussion
Ah, going back to this.
Well, Rune is missing from that list, and apparently Jeryl fights Chip a bit earlier and thus is killed before the other heroes reach him. Provided that none of the other heroes die prior to this and Kitmeng isn't a part of the battle, there are exactly 10 heroes remaining at this point. Which I like, since it reflects how there are ten heroes in the original Dissidia.
That would mean that we could have a 2-story battle against him. Half the team fights him in the first half, then the other half to finish him off. I have a few ideas on how this part could work, but... I still need to figure out a few things about the Quest Maker before I can determine whether they'd work or not (this time it's gameplay-related, not cutscene-related)
Well, Rune is missing from that list, and apparently Jeryl fights Chip a bit earlier and thus is killed before the other heroes reach him. Provided that none of the other heroes die prior to this and Kitmeng isn't a part of the battle, there are exactly 10 heroes remaining at this point. Which I like, since it reflects how there are ten heroes in the original Dissidia.
That would mean that we could have a 2-story battle against him. Half the team fights him in the first half, then the other half to finish him off. I have a few ideas on how this part could work, but... I still need to figure out a few things about the Quest Maker before I can determine whether they'd work or not (this time it's gameplay-related, not cutscene-related)
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Well this battle really isn't my say (as I'm not in it) so knock yourself out
Re: Chip Battle Discussion
Okay, now that I know a bit more about the mechanics of Quest Creator, this is my idea for this battle...
Now, most of our quests are going to be on done in Round Robin mode, but this would be two quests done on Tournament mode. To compare the two...
Let's say for a quest I put down Hero vs. Dragmire in the first round, Jeryl vs. Pho in the second, and Dude vs. Stunna in the third.
Round Robin would have those very fights happen.
Tournament, on the other hand, is an elimination-style one. So, if Hero wins the first fight, he then proceeds to fight Pho instead of Jeryl. However, if Hero loses the first fight, Jeryl will fight Dragmire, and then Pho if he wins. Note that remaining HP is carried over - this is important!
So, what would happen is that five heroes will fight Chip in a Tournament-style quest. Essentially, you are given five chances to take down the boss, much like the actual Feral Chaos fight. Then, the other five would fight him again, only this time he's tougher (maybe he has some of his limiters in the first fight, and they are removed for the second?) Obviously Chip would be stronger than the heroes are, to make up for it being five-on-one.
Now, most of our quests are going to be on done in Round Robin mode, but this would be two quests done on Tournament mode. To compare the two...
Let's say for a quest I put down Hero vs. Dragmire in the first round, Jeryl vs. Pho in the second, and Dude vs. Stunna in the third.
Round Robin would have those very fights happen.
Tournament, on the other hand, is an elimination-style one. So, if Hero wins the first fight, he then proceeds to fight Pho instead of Jeryl. However, if Hero loses the first fight, Jeryl will fight Dragmire, and then Pho if he wins. Note that remaining HP is carried over - this is important!
So, what would happen is that five heroes will fight Chip in a Tournament-style quest. Essentially, you are given five chances to take down the boss, much like the actual Feral Chaos fight. Then, the other five would fight him again, only this time he's tougher (maybe he has some of his limiters in the first fight, and they are removed for the second?) Obviously Chip would be stronger than the heroes are, to make up for it being five-on-one.
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Re: Chip Battle Discussion
Once again we will need hacked items to get his HP really high.
...and this doesn't affect me because I'm to busy being dead.
...and this doesn't affect me because I'm to busy being dead.
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This is an excellent idea! It doesn't affect me as much as some others, but it does affect me. It's me with an assist of Pho, then Pho with an assist of Etro. Heh, it should be interesting!
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Re: Chip Battle Discussion
Anyways, going by this is is a basic idea of how this battle against Chip would go...
That's the basic idea of it.
- Spoiler:
First, the characters would be split into two teams.
For the sake of this, I'll give an example of how the teams might be split up; note that that aren't necessarily how the teams will be split up nor the order they fight in:
Team 1 - Aqua, Zero, Shiny, Brawl, and Negi
Team 2 - Hero, Fallen, Rune, Xan, and Syaoran
The first part is Team 1 vs Chip. Each of the team members has an ally from the other team as their assist (e.g. Shiny having a Rune assist), while Chip has an assist as well, but does not have Ex Mode. This is hard, but doable.
At the end of the first half (i.e. when Chip is 'defeated'), they realize that they aren't really doing anything to Chip. Sanaki contacts Hero in order to give the warriors some of his power, while Chip, who realizes that while he can't be killed by the warriors, he is still taking lots of damage, and decides to do something drastic to gain more power... which ends up being his downfall (this'll be explained more in the actual story). While he is now stronger than before, he has lost his protection. Team 1 (or what's left of it), who realize that the other five have a better chance of actually beating Chip due to not being hurt already, try to hold back Chip in order for the Team 2 to get Sanaki's blessing, at the cost of their lives.
Team 2 fights against Chip; they have assists of the warriors who fell before the battle against Chip (Sanaki can't just revive them, but he can offer them a portion of their powers thanks to the crystals they obtained) - namely, Epic Girl, Dude, Snow, Dark, and Jeryl. Like the previous fight, each one is the assist of someone who makes sense as their assist (e.g. Fallen would have Epic Girl as his assist). Chip himself does not have an assist; he does have Ex Mode this time around, though. While Chip is stronger, his AI is actually weaker in this part (again, will be explained later, but think of it as the actual Feral Chaos fight; strong, but bad AI).
The five manage to defeat Chip, but being the troll that he is, Chip decides that if he's going down, he's taking the rest of them with him. He does a desperation attack against the heroes, making them critically wounded. The remaining few manage to contact Sanaki before they succumb to their wounds, which leads to the God of Dreams to go out to try and revive the heroes.
That's the basic idea of it.
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Re: Chip Battle Discussion
Cantata Mortis on it's own is not a music option.
So..what song do we use for the hopeless Chip fight?
So..what song do we use for the hopeless Chip fight?
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